25 Mar
2010
25 Mar
'10
9:38 p.m.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 16:56, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
events,
I understand now. I didn't know the main content was a carousel.
It's actually already in the general description where it says "... and
projects developed on top of it".
*
it's aligned with the target
WDYM by "target"?
Why is it in green, located on the right of the header? Why do we need it
on the main page? Cannot it be located on the project page?
there.
hmm... Ok.... we still need a general dashboard to have a global vision of
what has been modified in the whole wiki but that could be on the Community
page I guess.
that
Yes in Community WebHome then. Developers are part of the the Community but
you can have Community members not part of the development team. Said
differently:
For me Community = any way to contribute to xwiki (including being a
committer)
Developers = practices for committers
I'm still unsure if we should split Developers from Community but we'll see
later on.
More Comments
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* Documentation should have submenus to see what product it is documenting.
I don't see that in your screenshot. Also, we need to decide how we do
platform documentation vs project documentation. Thus I'd like to see
Documentation home page.
* Same thing for Projects. I'd like to see the Project home page. I don't
understand the difference between Project and Document. For me, Projects tab
gives a list of all projects, explain what they do. When you go on a project
home page you get to see more details, stats, etc and a Documentation link
that goes to the same place as the Documentation horizontal nav.
* I don't like the "About XWiki" page. It's actually content for the
Community area. But we could rewrite it differently.
* "Get Involved" is that same as Community for me. We should remove one of
them.
* As stated in the bullet point above there's a pb with the Documentation
submenu in the footer since each product has its own documentation. How do
we want to handle that?
Thanks
-Vincent
On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Feel
navigation;
I have a large screen so I'll be fine but I was wondering if the main
content area will be enough on 1024px screens with both left and right menus
(when we display images for ex).
Doesn't it fit with one panel only?
Anyway, 2 panels are ok for me if we think they're needed.
Horizontal menu is good (it's even me who proposed it initially! :)). It's
just that they don't look like tabs (as explained by the "don't make me
think" guy).
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgPropos…
What exactly is so NOT "don't make me think"?
Reference:
http://www.uvsc.edu/disted/decourses/mct/2740/IN/steinja/lessons/04/krug_ch…
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 13:57, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> Hi Caty,
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> *General Proposal: *
>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2
>
> We had already commented on the previous proposals and now this is a new
> proposals which is quite different. Does it mean we need to restart the
> discussions?
> Can we have a *single* location where we can see all proposals so that
we
can make
our mind. Right now I keep seeing new proposals coming from
different places and I'm not sure anymore what we are discussing about.
It might also be good to gather the points we agreed on on that page so
that we don't restart all over again every time.
This page contains links with all the discussion we had on XWiki.org. free to add what's missing.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgv2
I have seen this page but it's a bit of a mess, there are lots of stuff
everywhere.
So does it mean Silvia is removing her proposals?
> Some comments on this new proposal:
> * I don't like too much having panels on both sides. I'd prefer panels
on a
single
side.
* except from Main page, the left sided panels are used only for * I
don't like the horizontal tab UI
* this way we state that menu is the Primary one, being horizontal 
> * I don't understand the reason for the
arrows on the left and right. It
> looks as if I can click on them and the main content will scroll, is
that
it?
* The Projects are presented in an *carousel*: XWiki Enterprise, XWiki
Office, Extensions + other Temporal Thematic Pages (major releases, etc);
ok cool, so it *does* scroll! Which is good since that's what I thought it
would do without realizing it was a caroussel :)
* I
don't like that the description of the project is in a panel on the
left. I'd really prefer it to be in the main content area, above XWiki
Enterprise.
* that's like the main purpose on XWiki.org, not especially for XE * I'd like that the main page explains that
the XWiki project is an
ecosystem of projects.
* this you can see from the big footer
> * "see what users have to say..." look really strange where it's
located.
* Footer
looks good
* The 3 big buttons sounds slightly too flashy compared to the rest
* they are made to drawn attention - we can make them less flashy
* We don't see latest modified pages
* every space has custom panels. I don't think is necessary to see the
latest modified pages on the HOME page. If you go to the Documentation
space, you will see this information and also we can add other panels > * My biggest complaint: The home page
doesn't look like a community site
at
> all. This is important. Showing avatars +
names would a way to achieve
this.
> Actually I think I'd prefer that the home
be 100% about the community
only
and have
a link to direct to the XE page. The current home page could be
used as the main home page for the XE project page instead.
* We can make a page like this for the Community space. The ideea was the Home page present the project first and gives
you an overview of the
site content.
Ok now I understand. I had not seen that you had split what currently
exists on dev.xwiki.org into 2:
- Community
- Developers
I think it's ok after all. This is not exactly what I had in mind but it's
ok I guess. So we have a corporate-like web site, except for the Community
part.
> Conclusion: I'd really like to see a
proposal where the home page is a
> community site proposal showing contributors activities (avatar + names)
on:
-
extensions (extensions.xwiki.org)
- modified pages in the wiki(s)
- mailing list messages
- code commits
* IMO I think this should be present on the Community WebHome and
Development WebHome. >
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> *Main Page: *
>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2M…
>>
>> The main page has a different layout from the rest of the pages;
>>
>> - The footer<
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgArchitectu…
>> is
>> used to have a quick overview on the major topics the website covers;
>> - just the Main Page has this footer;
>> - contains just links to major topics for each category;
>> - The Projects are presented in an carousel: XWiki Enterprise, XWiki
>> Office, Extensions + other Temporal Thematic Pages (major releases,
> events,
>> etc);
>> - Right panels contains Latest information;
>>
>> *Documentation Page Example*:
>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2D…
>>
>> - Right Panels are changing according to the space;
>> - Main Navigation + Left Oriented Secondary Navigation + Breadcrumb;
>> - Comments enabled for documentation pages
>>
>> *Projects Page Example*:
>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2P…
>>
>> *About Page Example*:
>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2A…
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
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