25 Mar
2009
25 Mar
'09
2:14 p.m.
Hi,
In the search bar you can refine your search by selecting the space or the
wiki you want to search in. These concepts of space and wiki must be found
somewhere in the page, to let the user know his actions have a result (ex.
if he selects only in space X - the results will show him that - will not be
an invisible feature). We don't have implemented search in a parent/children
relationship manner - so these informations can be confusing.
The text describing is "Located in" it not says "Breadcrumbs" or
parent/children relationship, explicit says that is the location of the
page.
The nice thing about the location is that if you hover it (hover each
location link in the search page) - I've added titles to suggest that the
first element is a wiki, the second is the space, etc.
"Located in xwiki:Main.ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise12" - no J sorry :) very
cryptic
I agree that maybe ">" character can be confusing - so it can be replaced
with " - ". Using "." is also cryptic and dev way.
Caty
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:53, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Very cool Caty! The UI is fresh :)
I have two question:
- Is the breadcrum a real breadcrum that take into account the
parent/children relationship ? It seems not, so I would say the choice
of ">" in "Located in xwiki > Main >
ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise12" as a
separator for wiki/space/page is confusing, and not consistent with
other UIs like the new Treeview. I think habing it "Located in
xwiki:Main.ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise12" makes more sense.
I know this looks like a technical way of presenting thing, but
ultimately we want our users to be able to understand this notation by
synchronizing the wiki explorer and its suggest field, so for me it's ok
to use it in other places. Maybe adding spaces around separators make it
more readable: "Located in xwiki : Main . ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise12"
It's not the actual page breadcrumb for the sake of simplicity + clarity breadcrumbs can become quite long, which would
clutter the interface.
Additionnally, the new dashboard (+ currently hidden space dashboard)
reinforce the notion of pages in spaces, thus it makes sense to display
them
in the search. It tells the user where the page
is located, which
combined
with the title helps him locate it and understand
why it's there.
About the way it should be displayed, I'm not sure using the technical
notation makes much sense here... The ">" symbol is often used to
symbolize
that kind of relationship while ":"
& "." come "out of nowhere"... Thus
interface-wise keeping ">" seems better to me.
I am still not very convinced. The principal issue I have is that it's
too much close to what we display for breadcrumb (like in "Main: Welcome
to XWiki Enterprise Incubator > Dashboard"), while not the same concept.
I'd like we get more feedback on this topic before we go on with it. It
probably means we have to decide on a strategy for the future for
displaying the different kinds of paths inside the wiki (wiki>space>page
path as in the proposal, and full parent/children path).
JV? Laurent?
For all the rest it's very good and I'm +1 to get started implementing
it in XE as soon as we can.
Jerome.
- There is no title in the page, is this a design
choice ?
Yes it's a design choice suggested by Laurent, putting a title actually
distact the user from the search bar. Since the search bar is the most
important elemetn on the page, it should be displayed prominently - thus practice replacing the title.
Guillaume
> Thanks, keep up the good designs !
> Jerome.
>
> Ecaterina Valica wrote:
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> You can see some dummy text for the proposal running in
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ListWebSearch
>>
>> I've done the HTML+CSS+icons+Translations. I've removed the filters
>> background from the original proposal so that it can be much cleaner
>> integrated with the current look of Toucan.
>>
>> I would really want to know what you think.
>> Caty
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 21:43, Marius Dumitru Florea <
>> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1, looks awesome!
>>>
>>> Ecaterina Valica wrote:
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> You can view a general display of the search at
>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewSearchInterface
>>>>
>>>> I've separated the search proposal in:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Seach Bar:
>>>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/SearchProposal+SearchBar
>>>> 2. Filters:
>>>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/SearchProposal+Filters
>>>> 3. Result List:
>>>>
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/SearchProposal+ResultLi…
>> Please cast your vote and suggestions for the
proposals.
>>
>> Thank you :)
>> Caty
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