Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Make it simpler to configure XWiki when there's only 1 wiki

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com Do we know how it goes through the testing without being noticed ?

> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Mortagne > <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: >> #-# [Since 5.0M2] >> #-# What to do when the requested wiki does not exist: >> #-# - 0: (default) serve the main wiki >> #-# - 1: display an error (customizable through wikidoesnotexist.vm or >> xwiki:XWiki.WikiDoesNotExist) >> # xwiki.virtual.failOnWikiDoesNotExist=0 >> >> So the option do exist. >> >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Thomas Mortagne >> <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: >>> Something already been decided to take care of this issue: by default >>> when your wiki cannot be found you are supposed to fallback on main >>> wiki. >>> >>> Maybe Edy did not had time to finish it but I'm pretty sure I see the >>> option about it in the xwiki.cfg.vm. >>> >>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> > wrote: >>>> Hi Denis and all, >>>> >>>> On May 17, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Vincent, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>> >>>>>> Now that the virtual mode is on by default our users are having > troubles >>>>>> when they install 5.0.1. >>>>>> It's the second time in 2 days that I have to help someone. >>>>>> >>>>>> The issue is that users will want to use URLs such: >>>>>> http://myhost/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome >>>>>> >>>>>> And those URLs don't work anymore by default (which can be seen as a >>>>>> regression). >>>>>> >>>>>> So I'm proposing the following change for 5.0.2/5.1M1: >>>>>> * If there's only 1 wiki configured then always point to the main > wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This has already been discussed. I was in favor of that behavior, but >>>>> Edouard mention a potential confusing example in: >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ggjgqlfubjfyfxto >>>>> >>>>> So, what has been decided is to provide a more explicit message, and > what I >>>>> have suggested is to have an easy way for an admin to create the > missing >>>>> server descriptor when that error occurs. >>>>> >>>>> You should read the thread about this change in detail before > proposing a >>>>> new solution. >>>> >>>> Thanks for pointing me to this thread which I hadn't read at the time. >>>> >>>> I've now read it and I see that nothing was done on this point that > you raised (as item 3) in that thread). Eduard said that it could be a > problem for someone having 2 wikis and removing 1 and then all URLs would > redirect to that main wiki instead of noticing that the wiki he's pointing > to has been removed. >>>> >>>> The difference with now and when that thread was written is the > feedback we're getting from users trying XWiki 5.0+. We already have some > user who have stopped using XWiki because they found it too complex to > setup with this new virtual on by default and some others who spent hours > scratching their heads to figure out why something worked before and is no > longer working. >>>> >>>> So I really think we need to do something and quite fast (for 5.0.2 > and 5.1M1). >>>> >>>> Solution 1: >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> Check if there's only 1 wiki and default to the main wiki whatever the > URL in that case. It's still preferable to get a user started on xwiki and > more important than the use case found by Edy which is an edge case. >>>> >>>> Solution 2: >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> Since the default config is path-based, stop fallbacking to > domain-based when no descriptor is found and always fallback to the main > wiki instead. >>>> >>>> This option should solve the problem of getting started for users and > at the same time not have the problem raised by Edy. The only downside > would be users who had configured their subwiki in path-based (default) but > with domains, which is not the normal way anyway: they should configure it > in domain-based if they wish to use domains... >>>> >>>> My preference goes to 2. >>>> >>>> WDYT? Any other solution? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>> PS: The reason I suddenly took interest in this topic is because: >>>> * I've helped several users understand why they couldn't access their > wiki in 1 week (I can think of 3) >>>> * I've recoded the new wiki descriptor module and updated the new url > module to handle subwiki aliases and this recoded this algorithm. I'll be > committing this soon now (just finishing some functional tests) >>>>