16 Oct
2015
16 Oct
'15
11:31 a.m.
Of course we also need to think about our IRC bot which has several nice features we need
to keep. An especially important one IMO is the ability to have our logs archived on
xwiki.org. Of course the gitter integrations are very easy to develop but it would still
need to be done.
Note that there’s a IRC bridge too that allows to continue using one’s own IRC
client: https://irc.gitter.im/
Thanks
-Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:07:12, vincent(a)massol.net
(vincent@massol.net(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
One issue I’ve just realized is that Gitter requires
to log in with a github account (it does make it easy to create one from the web site). It
would have been nicer to be to able to have social logins or even some anonymous mode
which is what IRC offers.
Is this a blocker/no go?
Thanks
-Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:33:50, vincent(a)massol.net
(vincent@massol.net(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join
- https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting
like a room for xwiki committers
- https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in
github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers
Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since
that’s the public one.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, vincent(a)massol.net
(vincent@massol.net(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas
created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked
to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki
- https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne
(thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com(mailto:thomas.mortagne@xwiki.com)) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they
have a Linux desktop
support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more
user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and
a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more
friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the
user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
>
> I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as
Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
>
> It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack
for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to
have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See
http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-r…).
>
> Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as
http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need
to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
>
> Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter
so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent