27 Oct
2015
27 Oct
'15
11:46 a.m.
2015-10-23 13:09 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>om>:
IMO, the App bar is not very reliable nor scalable
solution. Sure, it looks
nice in the vanilla distribution because we have a handful of apps, but
once the admin starts installing more, it does not scale. To fix that, the
admin would edit the list of displayed apps and limit it to a smaller set,
but then the additionally installed apps will no longer be discoverable by
the users if we plan to stop showing them in the documentsTree as well.
What would be nice would be to have a "more applications" button in the app
bar for regular users as well, that would lead them to a page with a
livetable of installed apps that they can use (which are not necessarily
listed in the app bar nor in the documentsTree macro).
That was part of the original Caty's proposal. I just have not been
implemented yet.
Jira: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11423
+1 for the distinction between content apps vs no-content apps when
deciding to hide or not the entry page of the application. Sounds like a
good rule.
Personally, I don`t really agree to go further with the separation of apps
and content for the simple reason that some apps really generate content
(reports, events, tasks, etc.) which are wiki pages/documents and on which
users want to interract/collaborate. I believe that hiding these app
generated content pages from the general navigation / documentTree would
only hinder the collaboration.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
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Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
Hi everyone,
I wasn’t sure about current rule for hiding pages so I researched it and
I’m listing below what I believe is our current status. I’d like to
document it on dev.xwiki.org if we’re ok with this status.
Current rules:
==============
* Technical documents must be hidden
* Technical apps must be hidden and not appear in the Document Tree.
These
are apps that don’t generate content data. For
example the following apps
(not exhaustive list) have their pages hidden (including WebHome):
** Stats app
** Active Installs app
** AWM app
** Color Themes app (it generates data but not content data)
** Dashboard app
** Scheduler app
* Apps that generate content pages (ie pages that should be appear in
global search results) must have their WebHome page not hidden (and the
generated content pages must also not be hidden). As a consequence these
apps will appear in the Document Tree.
Future:
=======
It would also be nice to discuss if in the future we wish to separate
more
Apps from Content and hide all Application pages
(including Webhome), so
that it is less confusing for users who would:
* Use the App bar to navigate to applications
* Use the Document Tree to navigate to content pages
I personally would like this I think but the current problem is that
generated content pages won’t be found in global search results. Each app
can provide a specialized search ofc but it’s not good enough. Thus we’d
need to find a way for the entries to appear in the global search results
even though they are hidden. One solution would be to have a way to mark
a
space as an application space and exclude those
from the DocumentTree
(for
example).
Before we dive into the solutions in details, would you agree that it
would be good to better separate Apps from Content?
Some Links:
===========
* Currently documented best practices about hiding technical documents:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDevelopmentBestPra…
* Mail thread:
http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Brainstorming-Rules-for-hidden-documents-…
* JIRA issue:
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/MOCCACAL-85
Thanks
-Vincent
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