Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Page Identifier or Page Name?

We have 2.5 -1s for switching to "Identifier" so the conclusion is that we`ll continue using "Page Name". Thanks for the votes and the arguments! -Eduard On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com > I indeed forgot about XWikiDocument#getId which move my vote to -1. > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> >> Agree with Vincent, and I'm actually -1 for changing it to "identifier". >> Internally, a document already has an identifier, the generated hash. >> >> On 08/25/2015 11:53 AM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote: >>> You do realize that changing “page name” to “identifier” means > introducing a new vocabulary and means >>> - changing lots of wiki pages on xwiki.org, >>> - changing APIs that will no longer be consistent, such as pageName in > the REST model, getPageName() in create.js, etc >>> - changing all places in the UI where we use “page name" >>> >>> That’s a *huge* work... >>> >>> ATM I’m -0 and very close to -1 to change the vocabulary since we > already have a lot to do with NS/ND. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> With the latest changes to the create UI [1] we`ve changed (mostly >>> following the agreed-ish proposal [2]) the old "Page Name" label in the >>> create UI to "Identifier" because we believed that having both "Page > Title" >>> and "Page Name" on the same page would confuse users and they would not >>> know which one to use. >>> >>> Now, I`d like your quick vote on which one to stick with, since some > might >>> consider that "Page Name" is better. >>> >>> One argument for page name (i.e. against "identifier") is that an >>> "identifier" is usually globally unique and in our case this is only > true >>> within the same parent. Also, copying a document to a new location and >>> preserving its "identifier" can feel a bit odd to some, since they would >>> expect the need for a new "identifier". Feel free to express your other >>> arguments. >>> >>> Another argument for identifier besides the one already mentioned is > that >>> it also better reflects its "technical" nature and should "discourage" >>> users from working with it and they should be using the document's title >>> instead of their needs (both in the create step and further along). >>> >>> Here's my +1 for "identifier". >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eduard >>> >>> ---------- >>> [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12231 >>> [2] >>> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/NestedCreate/createTitl… >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> devs(a)xwiki.org >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> devs(a)xwiki.org >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sergiu Dumitriu >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs