26 Aug
2015
26 Aug
'15
12:54 p.m.
We have 2.5 -1s for switching to "Identifier" so the conclusion is that
we`ll continue using "Page Name".
Thanks for the votes and the arguments!
-Eduard
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
> I indeed forgot about XWikiDocument#getId which move my vote to -1.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
> > Agree with Vincent, and I'm
actually -1 for changing it to "identifier".
> > Internally, a document already has an identifier, the generated hash.
> >
> > On 08/25/2015 11:53 AM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
> >> You do realize that changing “page name” to “identifier” means
> introducing a new vocabulary and means
> >> - changing lots of wiki pages on xwiki.org,
> >> - changing APIs that will no longer be consistent, such as pageName in
> the REST model, getPageName() in create.js, etc
> >> - changing all places in the UI where we use “page name"
> >>
> >> That’s a *huge* work...
> >>
> >> ATM I’m -0 and very close to -1 to change the vocabulary since we
> already have a lot to do with NS/ND.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Vincent
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> With the latest changes to the create UI [1] we`ve changed (mostly
> >> following the agreed-ish proposal [2]) the old "Page Name" label
in the
> >> create UI to "Identifier" because we believed that having both
"Page
> Title"
> >> and "Page Name" on the same page would confuse users and they
would not
> >> know which one to use.
> >>
> >> Now, I`d like your quick vote on which one to stick with, since some
> might
> >> consider that "Page Name" is better.
> >>
> >> One argument for page name (i.e. against "identifier") is that an
> >> "identifier" is usually globally unique and in our case this is
only
> true
> >> within the same parent. Also, copying a document to a new location and
> >> preserving its "identifier" can feel a bit odd to some, since they
would
> >> expect the need for a new "identifier". Feel free to express your
other
> >> arguments.
> >>
> >> Another argument for identifier besides the one already mentioned is
> that
> >> it also better reflects its "technical" nature and should
"discourage"
> >> users from working with it and they should be using the document's
title
> >> instead of their needs (both in the create step and further along).
> >>
> >> Here's my +1 for "identifier".
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Eduard
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12231
> >> [2]
> >>
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/NestedCreate/createTitl…
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