I have not been aware of that rule. If this is indeed the case then it would decide the issue which has triggered the discussion ;) After thinking about it for a moment I tend to say "mostly yes, but it might depend" More specifically: yes for navigation, not so for search. For the example of the mocca calendar (which triggered this discussion) or any calendar app I feel it is likely that events should not show in the general "navigation", A navigation treating them as pages will most likely only be able to list then alphabetically by name; the special "navigation" in the calendar view does a much better job, especially if you think about very old events which just happen to start with 'a'. The same reasoning applies e.g. to the task manager (might have lots of resolved issues in the navigation), and with somewhat lesser force to the blog. Btw, I feel it a bit odd to currently have the "XWiki" Space in the navigation, which can be expanded to show (mostly, but not exclusively) the users of the wiki. I am not sure if the same apples for e.g. the "Ideas" application, and I know some small "App within minutes" application which have only a few pages and navigating them might make sense (e.g. book inventory lists - not for a library, but "about these book shelves in both of our rooms that have some" ;) ). However about the search, most likely users want the application data in the search result, and only filter them optionally (especially true with blog entries, maybe less with Task Manager (think about old tasks) or calendar events). It is maybe a bit too specific, and technically non-trivial to implement efficiently, but what about a flag "hide my child pages from navigation"? (Just a Friday afternoon idea) Or maybe it is a property of the object on the page? E.g. calendar: show calendar pages (there are only a few), but hide events (there are many); for task manager: show project pages, but hide task pages; do not show user pages as "navigation" (as there is the user directory which does a better job), etc Or maybe we need two flags: "Hide from navigation" and "hide from search". (I know about users who tend to hide the "WebHome" of their content spaces, to avoid it showing up in the navigation - and I know about these users because they call me and complain that their WebHome-pages do not show up in search ;)) mit freundlichen Grüßen Clemens Klein-Robbenhaar -- Clemens Klein-Robbenhaar Software Development EsPresto AG Breite Str. 30-31 10178 Berlin/Germany Tel: +49.(0)30.90 226.763 Fax: +49.(0)30.90 226.760 robbenhaar(a)espresto.com www.espresto.de HRB 77554 B - Berlin-Charlottenburg Vorstand: Maya Biersack, Peter Biersack Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Ing. Winfried Weber Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001:2008

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: +1