Hi devs, Some users have raised that when you click on the pencil icon in the Create/Delete/Move/Rename UIs, the user has to understand the “dot notation” (ie the reference notation) and that it’s not user-friendly for simple users. Here’s what I propose: 1) Only display the pencil icon (and thus the advanced controls) for Advanced Users. 2) Note that we were doing this initially but it was modified to fix http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12526. The idea would be to fix XWIKI-12526 differently by modifying how we perform validation on the title field: if the title field is empty, don’t expand the location edit controls and just highlight the title field (for simple users). 3) (suggested by Edy): Introduce controls in the modal document picker (tree) for creating empty documents in place (similar to creating new folders in an operating system's folder picker, where you would create new folders until you achieve the hierarchy you desire). We could even think about using a template (e.g. space homepage) for these "placeholder" documents. E.g. http://i.stack.imgur.com/umdE9.png http://www.mclures.net/java/struts/Together/Struts-screenshots/create_proje… (contextual menu) etc... The advantage of this would be that it would make more sense to simple users and it would also be something they could use. Of course, one downside would be the extra empty/placeholder documents that it would create, but you have the same thing in a filesystem, more or less. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Hi devs, Some users have raised that when you click on the pencil icon in the Create/Delete/Move/Rename UIs, the user has to understand the “dot notation” (ie the reference notation) and that it’s not user-friendly for simple users. Here’s what I propose: 1) Only display the pencil icon (and thus the advanced controls) for Advanced Users. 2) Note that we were doing this initially but it was modified to fix http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12526. The idea would be to fix XWIKI-12526 differently by modifying how we perform validation on the title field: if the title field is empty, don’t expand the location edit controls and just highlight the title field (for simple users). 3) (suggested by Edy): Introduce controls in the modal document picker (tree) for creating empty documents in place (similar to creating new folders in an operating system's folder picker, where you would create new folders until you achieve the hierarchy you desire). We could even think about using a template (e.g. space homepage) for these "placeholder" documents. E.g. http://i.stack.imgur.com/umdE9.png http://www.mclures.net/java/struts/Together/Struts-screenshots/create_proje… (contextual menu) etc... The advantage of this would be that it would make more sense to simple users and it would also be something they could use. Of course, one downside would be the extra empty/placeholder documents that it would create, but you have the same thing in a filesystem, more or less. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Hi devs, Some users have raised that when you click on the pencil icon in the Create/Delete/Move/Rename UIs, the user has to understand the “dot notation” (ie the reference notation) and that it’s not user-friendly for simple users. Here’s what I propose: 1) Only display the pencil icon (and thus the advanced controls) for Advanced Users. 2) Note that we were doing this initially but it was modified to fix http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12526. The idea would be to fix XWIKI-12526 differently by modifying how we perform validation on the title field: if the title field is empty, don’t expand the location edit controls and just highlight the title field (for simple users). 3) (suggested by Edy): Introduce controls in the modal document picker (tree) for creating empty documents in place (similar to creating new folders in an operating system's folder picker, where you would create new folders until you achieve the hierarchy you desire). We could even think about using a template (e.g. space homepage) for these "placeholder" documents. E.g. http://i.stack.imgur.com/umdE9.png http://www.mclures.net/java/struts/Together/Struts-screenshots/create_proje… (contextual menu) etc... The advantage of this would be that it would make more sense to simple users and it would also be something they could use. Of course, one downside would be the extra empty/placeholder documents that it would create, but you have the same thing in a filesystem, more or less. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs