10 Aug
2011
10 Aug
'11
2:40 p.m.
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
--
Thomas Mortagne
10 Aug
10 Aug
2:43 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
--
Thomas Mortagne
--
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2:44 p.m.
Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well instead?
How long till it becomes standardly distributed in debians?
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:43, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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2:53 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht <paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do.
How long till it becomes standardly distributed in
debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:43, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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3:06 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
Actually lets do it now :)
Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do. How long till it becomes standardly distributed
in debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:43, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
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Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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3:24 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Done (ok did not take the time to test it but should be ok unless I
did not copy/pasting mistake or typo ;)).
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
Actually lets do it now :) Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do. How long till it becomes standardly distributed
in debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:43, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
> XWiki debian package.
>
> We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
> features today. You can see it on
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
>
> With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Here is my +1
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
>
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11:01 a.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 14:53, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
There is not only the main debian distrib, see
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/x169.html for the
rules, and more largely
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/index.html.
If you follow these rules, and IMO you should, there is no reason not to
submit the package to debian at least in contrib...
or if not, could you tell what is precisely blocking ?
If there is some real blocker have you check if ubuntu (which more relaxed)
is a better option ?
I really see an opportunity here if the package goes in, many debian/ubuntu
users only adopt official packages.
Denis
Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do.
How long till it becomes standardly distributed
in debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
paul
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Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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1:29 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 14:53, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
I never said I was against it, again the rule I described is for the
offical main debian repository and of course there is more relaxed
repositories staring with our own.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
There is not only the main debian distrib, see
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/x169.html for the
rules, and more largely
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/index.html.
If you follow these rules, and IMO you should, there is no reason not to
submit the package to debian at least in contrib...
or if not, could you tell what is precisely blocking ?
If there is some real blocker have you check if ubuntu (which more relaxed)
is a better option ?
I really see an opportunity here if the package goes in, many debian/ubuntu
users only adopt official packages. Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do.
How long till it becomes standardly distributed
in debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
Denis
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
> XWiki debian package.
>
> We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
> features today. You can see it on
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
MySQL database.
>
> With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Here is my +1
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
>
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
Also please that's not the subject of the mail, before choosing which
repository XWiki will goes in we should start by actually have a
debian package...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 14:53, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
I never said I was against it, again the rule I described is for the
offical main debian repository and of course there is more relaxed
repositories staring with our own. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
There is not only the main debian distrib, see
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/x169.html for the
rules, and more largely
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/index.html.
If you follow these rules, and IMO you should, there is no reason not to
submit the package to debian at least in contrib...
or if not, could you tell what is precisely blocking ?
If there is some real blocker have you check if ubuntu (which more relaxed)
is a better option ?
I really see an opportunity here if the package goes in, many debian/ubuntu
users only adopt official packages. Can you make it dependent on PostgreSQL as well
instead?
Yes should be pretty easy to do.
How long till it becomes standardly distributed
in debians?
A very long time (if not never) I think: the blocker here is that to
be in the standard debian repository all our dependency should have
their own debian package on which xwiki debian package depends. That's
petty much why you don't find much java soft in debian package.
Denis
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Le 10 août 2011 à 14:43, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne
> <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
>> XWiki debian package.
>>
>> We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
>> features today. You can see it on
>> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
>
> Forgot to give some more details about it: the idea is to provide a
> production oriented debian package which mean it's not a simple
> repackaging of the jetty/hsqldb ready to use package but a tomcat and
> mysql based package. It install XWiki on tomcat and create the proper
> MySQL database.
>
>>
>> With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Here is my +1
>>
>> --
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>>
>
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Can you justify how it helps to have such a package?
On which JVM would you rely when doing so?
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:40, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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3:01 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Paul Libbrecht <paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
Can you justify how it helps to have such a package?
With that package installing XWiki/tomcat/MySQL on debian/ubuntu just
mean executing one command.
On which JVM would you rely when doing so?
Any JVM providing java6-runtime package. But that part is more tomcat
job, from XWiki point of view we depends on tomcat.
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:40, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Paul Libbrecht
<paul(a)hoplahup.net> wrote:
It also mean it's way easier to upgrade since dpkg provide conflict
resolution UI for configuration files.
I forgot to say that the plan is to provide a debian repository on
debian.xwiki.org or something like that.
Can you justify how it helps to have such a
package?
With that package installing XWiki/tomcat/MySQL on debian/ubuntu just
mean executing one command. On which JVM would you rely when doing so?
Any JVM providing java6-runtime package. But that part is more tomcat
job, from XWiki point of view we depends on tomcat.
paul
Le 10 août 2011 à 14:40, Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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10:02 p.m.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
The README at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/README says:
"Debian/Ubuntu Package(s) of XWiki built using maven."
Shouldn't it say "XWiki Enterprise" instead? Also shouldn't it mention
that it's packaging Tomcat and MySQL too?
With my latest commit I think it's now clean
enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
I don't understand why you're proposing to move it to the platform. It seems to me
it's an XE packaging and not a Platform packaging.
More generally we need to decide what packages we want to officially support as a dev
team.
Should we support them all: RPM, DMG, etc? should we only support some?
Personally I think it's ok to add support for as many platforms as we want provided 1)
that the quality is good enough (otherwise it generates lots of questions on the lists and
doesn't give a good image of the XWiki project) and 2) that we have an active
committer willing to support it. In case this committers goes away or becomes inactive on
this distribution we shouldn't hesitate to move it to xwiki-contrib.
Regarding the work you started I think it could be ok to start making it part of our
official sources provided you agree to maintain it and make it to a high quality
standard.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
WDYT ?
Here is my +1
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14 Aug
14 Aug
11:16 a.m.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I meant moving it in standard, so yes XE just wrote it too quickly.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Yes it should say "XWiki Enterprise".
It's not packaging anything, it has a dependency on it. And anyway at
this level it's only about XWiki Enterprise as debian package, there
is potentially not only Tomcat and there is not only MySQL (there is
already a PotgreSQL package as I said already).
Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
The README at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/README says:
"Debian/Ubuntu Package(s) of XWiki built using maven."
Shouldn't it say "XWiki Enterprise" instead? Also shouldn't it mention
that it's packaging Tomcat and MySQL too? With my latest commit I think it's now clean
enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
I don't understand why you're proposing to move it to the platform. It seems to
me it's an XE packaging and not a Platform packaging.
More generally we need to decide what packages we want to officially support as a dev
team.
Should we support them all: RPM, DMG, etc? should we only support some?
Personally I think it's ok to add support for as many platforms as we want provided
1) that the quality is good enough (otherwise it generates lots of questions on the lists
and doesn't give a good image of the XWiki project) and 2) that we have an active
committer willing to support it. In case this committers goes away or becomes inactive on
this distribution we shouldn't hesitate to move it to xwiki-contrib.
Regarding the work you started I think it could be ok to start making it part of our
official sources provided you agree to maintain it and make it to a high quality standard.
Of course. Also note that Debian package is not just one package among
others in this case since we always use Debian internally ourself. It
would be harder to maintain any other package I guess.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
I meant moving it in standard, so yes XE just wrote it too quickly.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
hmm I think I don't understand something then. I thought it was like defining a
pom.xml but using the Debian DEB dependency syntax. Thus I thought that you'd have to
explicitly put a dependency on MySQL or Tomcat inside the file where you define the
dependencies. Isn't that so?
Is it possible to define several dependencies (like PostGreSQL and MySQL) in the same file
and then have the user choose which one to install when resolving the file at runtime?
In any case I think it means we're going to support only some dependencies and not all
that exist and thus we should document somewhere which one we support.
Maybe I misunderstood something?
Thanks
-Vincent
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Yes it should say "XWiki Enterprise".
It's not packaging anything, it has a dependency on it. And anyway at
this level it's only about XWiki Enterprise as debian package, there
is potentially not only Tomcat and there is not only MySQL (there is
already a PotgreSQL package as I said already). Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
The README at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/README says:
"Debian/Ubuntu Package(s) of XWiki built using maven."
Shouldn't it say "XWiki Enterprise" instead? Also shouldn't it mention
that it's packaging Tomcat and MySQL too? With my latest commit I think it's now clean
enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
I don't understand why you're proposing to move it to the platform. It seems to
me it's an XE packaging and not a Platform packaging.
More generally we need to decide what packages we want to officially support as a dev
team.
Should we support them all: RPM, DMG, etc? should we only support some?
Personally I think it's ok to add support for as many platforms as we want provided
1) that the quality is good enough (otherwise it generates lots of questions on the lists
and doesn't give a good image of the XWiki project) and 2) that we have an active
committer willing to support it. In case this committers goes away or becomes inactive on
this distribution we shouldn't hesitate to move it to xwiki-contrib.
Regarding the work you started I think it could be ok to start making it part of our
official sources provided you agree to maintain it and make it to a high quality standard.
Of course. Also note that Debian package is not just one package among
others in this case since we always use Debian internally ourself. It
would be harder to maintain any other package I guess.
WDYT?
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Nop it's not that simple unfortunately, you can find an example on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/xwiki-enterprise-….
That could not work as you expect anyway I think since I doubt it
would be possible to know the right debian package id by looking at
the maven package since it's usually not exactly the same.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
hmm I think I don't understand something then. I thought it was like defining a
pom.xml but using the Debian DEB dependency syntax. Thus I thought that you'd have to
explicitly put a dependency on MySQL or Tomcat inside the file where you define the
dependencies. Isn't that so?
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Yes it should say "XWiki Enterprise".
It's not packaging anything, it has a dependency on it. And anyway at
this level it's only about XWiki Enterprise as debian package, there
is potentially not only Tomcat and there is not only MySQL (there is
already a PotgreSQL package as I said already). Hi devs,
I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
XWiki debian package.
We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
features today. You can see it on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
The README at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/README says:
"Debian/Ubuntu Package(s) of XWiki built using maven."
Shouldn't it say "XWiki Enterprise" instead? Also shouldn't it mention
that it's packaging Tomcat and MySQL too?
Is it possible to define several dependencies (like PostGreSQL and MySQL) in the same
file and then have the user choose which one to install when resolving the file at
runtime?
I don't think so since dependencies are downloaded before your install
script is executed in Debian. That's the reason why I did several
packages actually since letting the user choose the database to use is
pretty easy.
In any case I think it means we're going to support only some dependencies and not
all that exist and thus we should document somewhere which one we support.
Not sure what you mean here. We currently provide Tomcat/MySQL and
Tomcat/PostgreSQL based packages, there will maybe be more later,
maybe not but apart from listing them I don't see what you want to
document more.
Maybe I misunderstood something?
Thanks
-Vincent
I meant moving it in standard, so yes XE just wrote it too quickly.
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With my latest commit I think it's now clean
enough to be moved on
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
I don't understand why you're proposing to move it to the platform. It seems to
me it's an XE packaging and not a Platform packaging.
More generally we need to decide what packages we want to officially support as a dev
team.
Should we support them all: RPM, DMG, etc? should we only support some?
Personally I think it's ok to add support for as many platforms as we want provided
1) that the quality is good enough (otherwise it generates lots of questions on the lists
and doesn't give a good image of the XWiki project) and 2) that we have an active
committer willing to support it. In case this committers goes away or becomes inactive on
this distribution we shouldn't hesitate to move it to xwiki-contrib.
Regarding the work you started I think it could be ok to start making it part of our
official sources provided you agree to maintain it and make it to a high quality standard.
Of course. Also note that Debian package is not just one package among
others in this case since we always use Debian internally ourself. It
would be harder to maintain any other package I guess.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
BTW there is also another package with no dependency on Tomcat or any
database which is a dependency of the others which are just handling
specifically the link to tomcat and the database stuff. So it's also
possible to use that and take care yourself about theses aspects.
On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Nop it's not that simple unfortunately, you can find an example on
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/xwiki-enterprise-….
That could not work as you expect anyway I think since I doubt it
would be possible to know the right debian package id by looking at
the maven package since it's usually not exactly the same.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
hmm I think I don't understand something then. I thought it was like defining a
pom.xml but using the Debian DEB dependency syntax. Thus I thought that you'd have to
explicitly put a dependency on MySQL or Tomcat inside the file where you define the
dependencies. Isn't that so?
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> I started with Guillaume Fenollar last week to do an experiment on an
> XWiki debian package.
>
> We got something pretty nice and I cleaned it up and added some
> features today. You can see it on
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian.
The README at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-debian/blob/master/README says:
"Debian/Ubuntu Package(s) of XWiki built using maven."
Shouldn't it say "XWiki Enterprise" instead? Also shouldn't it mention
that it's packaging Tomcat and MySQL too?
Yes it should say "XWiki Enterprise".
It's not packaging anything, it has a dependency on it. And anyway at
this level it's only about XWiki Enterprise as debian package, there
is potentially not only Tomcat and there is not only MySQL (there is
already a PotgreSQL package as I said already).
Is it possible to define several dependencies (like PostGreSQL and MySQL) in the same
file and then have the user choose which one to install when resolving the file at
runtime?
I don't think so since dependencies are downloaded before your install
script is executed in Debian. That's the reason why I did several
packages actually since letting the user choose the database to use is
pretty easy.
In any case I think it means we're going to support only some dependencies and not
all that exist and thus we should document somewhere which one we support.
Not sure what you mean here. We currently provide Tomcat/MySQL and
Tomcat/PostgreSQL based packages, there will maybe be more later,
maybe not but apart from listing them I don't see what you want to
document more.
Maybe I misunderstood something?
Thanks
-Vincent
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> With my latest commit I think it's now clean enough to be moved on
> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform.
I don't understand why you're proposing to move it to the platform. It seems to
me it's an XE packaging and not a Platform packaging.
I meant moving it in standard, so yes XE just wrote it too quickly.
More generally we need to decide what packages we want to officially support as a dev
team.
Should we support them all: RPM, DMG, etc? should we only support some?
Personally I think it's ok to add support for as many platforms as we want provided
1) that the quality is good enough (otherwise it generates lots of questions on the lists
and doesn't give a good image of the XWiki project) and 2) that we have an active
committer willing to support it. In case this committers goes away or becomes inactive on
this distribution we shouldn't hesitate to move it to xwiki-contrib.
Regarding the work you started I think it could be ok to start making it part of our
official sources provided you agree to maintain it and make it to a high quality standard.
Of course. Also note that Debian package is not just one package among
others in this case since we always use Debian internally ourself. It
would be harder to maintain any other package I guess.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Here is my +1
>
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