14 Jan
2008
14 Jan
'08
1:14 p.m.
I've just installed xwiki 1.1.2.war on Tomcat connecting to a mysql. This
works fine, but there's almost no content - editing webHome fails and so
does access to "administration", so I need the default content.
On:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HInstallin…
It says that I'm supposed to use the import / export
tool<http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/ImportExport>rt>,
but the link to administration doesn't work in the installed wiki.
How do I proceed?
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14 Jan
14 Jan
2:15 p.m.
May way there was simply to read the config and see that there's an
admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set there
by removing the comment in front of the config line.
After that, importing is easy.
I don't know if there is a better method but that works. If this is
the official method, it should be written on the page you notify,
indeed.
Hope it helps.
paul
Le 14 janv. 08 à 13:14, Morten Matras a écrit :
I've just installed xwiki 1.1.2.war on Tomcat
connecting to a
mysql. This works fine, but there's almost no content - editing
webHome fails and so does access to "administration", so I need the
default content.
On: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
Installation#HInstallingtheStandalonedistribution
It says that I'm supposed to use the import / export tool, but the
link to administration doesn't work in the installed wiki.
How do I proceed?
--
Morten Matras
Udviklingschef
GAMP Media og Blob Communication ApS
Svendsagervej 42
5240 Odense NØ
Tlf: 61711103
E: morten(a)gampmedia.dk
T: 76 654321
W: www.blobcom.com
E: morten(a)blobcom.com
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2:23 p.m.
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
May way there was simply to read the config and see
that there's an
admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set
there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
After that, importing is easy.
I don't know if there is a better method but that works. If this is
the official method, it should be written on the page you notify,
indeed.
The official method is the one described in the installation guide.
Morten, I think you're mixing Standalone installation and manual
installation of the WAR. The standalone installation/distribution
includes default content whereas the WAR is well simply a WAR and
you'll need to import data afterwards.
I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It takes less
than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded either the zip or
the installer.
-Vincent
PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your
database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in.
Le 14 janv. 08 à 13:14, Morten Matras a écrit :
I've just installed xwiki 1.1.2.war on Tomcat
connecting to a
mysql. This works fine, but there's almost no content - editing
webHome fails and so does access to "administration", so I need the
default content.
On:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HInstallin…
It says that I'm supposed to use the import / export tool, but the
link to administration doesn't work in the installed wiki.
How do I proceed?
--
Morten Matras
Udviklingschef
GAMP Media og Blob Communication ApS
Svendsagervej 42
5240 Odense NØ
Tlf: 61711103
E: morten(a)gampmedia.dk
T: 76 654321
W: www.blobcom.com
E: morten(a)blobcom.com
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2:24 p.m.
oh I forgot:
Morten, please:
1) do not hijack existing threads
2) use a subject in your emails
:)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
May way there was simply to read the config and
see that there's an
admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set
there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
After that, importing is easy.
I don't know if there is a better method but that works. If this is
the official method, it should be written on the page you notify,
indeed.
The official method is the one described in the installation guide.
Morten, I think you're mixing Standalone installation and manual
installation of the WAR. The standalone installation/distribution
includes default content whereas the WAR is well simply a WAR and
you'll need to import data afterwards.
I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It takes less
than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded either the zip
or the installer.
-Vincent
PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your
database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in.
Le 14 janv. 08 à 13:14, Morten Matras a écrit :
I've just installed xwiki 1.1.2.war on Tomcat
connecting to a
mysql. This works fine, but there's almost no content - editing
webHome fails and so does access to "administration", so I need
the default content.
On:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HInstallin…
It says that I'm supposed to use the import / export tool, but the
link to administration doesn't work in the installed wiki.
How do I proceed?
--
Morten Matras
Udviklingschef
GAMP Media og Blob Communication ApS
Svendsagervej 42
5240 Odense NØ
Tlf: 61711103
E: morten(a)gampmedia.dk
T: 76 654321
W: www.blobcom.com
E: morten(a)blobcom.com
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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2:25 p.m.
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
oh I forgot:
Morten, please:
1) do not hijack existing threads
hmm it's possible point 1) is caused by 2) and my reader aggregates
all mails with the same topic together...
-Vincent
2) use a subject in your emails
:)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
May way there was simply to read the config and
see that there's
an admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set
there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
After that, importing is easy.
I don't know if there is a better method but that works. If this
is the official method, it should be written on the page you
notify, indeed.
The official method is the one described in the installation guide.
Morten, I think you're mixing Standalone installation and manual
installation of the WAR. The standalone installation/distribution
includes default content whereas the WAR is well simply a WAR and
you'll need to import data afterwards.
I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It takes less
than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded either the zip
or the installer.
-Vincent
PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your
database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in.
Le 14 janv. 08 à 13:14, Morten Matras a écrit :
I've just installed xwiki 1.1.2.war on Tomcat
connecting to a
mysql. This works fine, but there's almost no content - editing
webHome fails and so does access to "administration", so I need
the default content.
On:
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HInstallin…
It says that I'm supposed to use the import / export tool, but
the link to administration doesn't work in the installed wiki.
How do I proceed?
--
Morten Matras
Udviklingschef
GAMP Media og Blob Communication ApS
Svendsagervej 42
5240 Odense NØ
Tlf: 61711103
E: morten(a)gampmedia.dk
T: 76 654321
W: www.blobcom.com
E: morten(a)blobcom.com
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users mailing list
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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3:01 p.m.
Le 14 janv. 08 à 14:23, Vincent Massol a écrit :
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
But the database gets filled right way, doesn't it ? So we loose
admin rights fairly easily (eg. changing browsers). I did not really
experience what you describe, maybe I changed browsers halfway, in
doubt that Safari or OmniWeb was imperfectly supported.
In all cases, how long should this admin right last ? The method
seems slightly unsafe to my taste. I really prefer to take a stab at
the config.
Most other "easy to install platforms" nowadays have a kind of wizard
for the first-time connection which even includes the config of the
database connection. This is at least the case of Moodle and Drupal.
I remember a friend forwarding me:
http://www.lullabot.com/files/Drupal5Installing.mp4
I think it the eXo platform and Jahia are other examples with a
configurator.
Since it's a wizard, it's pretty clear that you should "hang on" (and
not change browsers, for example!). Generally it concludes by trying
to write its own configuration (which of course fails in some cases,
then you're told to change the files yourself).
I don't like installers in general but I feel that a configurator is
rather a good thing except being yet another feature wish.
paul
PS: I believe I and Morten are not the only one to mistrust Jetty. It
may be wrong, I agree... but that must be common. Hence the
standalone version does not come as an option.
May way there was simply to read the config and
see that there's
an admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set
there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
The official method is
the one described in the installation guide.
[...] I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It
takes less than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded
either the zip or the installer.
PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your
database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in.
3:18 p.m.
On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Le 14 janv. 08 à 14:23, Vincent Massol a écrit :
Ok I wasn't precise enough. Since XWiki doesn't see security classes
(like XWiki.XWikiRights) it sets itself into no security mode. it's
only when you import those classes that suddenly it starts checking
rights.
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht
wrote:
But the database gets filled right way, doesn't it ? May way there was simply to read the config and
see that there's
an admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set
there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
The official method is
the one described in the installation guide.
[...] I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It
takes less than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded
either the zip or the installer.
PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your
database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in. So we loose admin rights fairly easily (eg. changing
browsers).
What? I don't understand what you're saying. What does this have to do
with browsers? Only thing you may loose by changing browsers are the
cookies but that's just a convenience you can always log in again with
your user...
I did not really experience what you describe, maybe
I changed
browsers halfway, in doubt that Safari or OmniWeb was imperfectly
supported.
In all cases, how long should this admin right last ? The method
seems slightly unsafe to my taste. I really prefer to take a stab at
the config.
That won't change anything at all. All you'd do by enabling the
superadmin user is introduce a security hole.
I think you don't understand what I'm saying :)
Most other "easy to install platforms" nowadays have a kind of
wizard for the first-time connection which even includes the config
of the database connection. This is at least the case of Moodle and
Drupal. I remember a friend forwarding me:
http://www.lullabot.com/files/Drupal5Installing.mp4
I think it the eXo platform and Jahia are other examples with a
configurator.
Are you talking about something else now? I thought the topic of this
email was about getting an "empty database" from Morten...
Re the wizard, yes this is something planned. Right now we have the 2
ends of the spectrum:
- standalone installs. Does everything and gives a fully working
system in less than a 1 minute (it's just an unzip or a simple
installer)
- manual install (the WAR + config to set + DB to set up)
Since it's a wizard, it's pretty clear that
you should "hang
on" (and not change browsers, for example!). Generally it concludes
by trying to write its own configuration (which of course fails in
some cases, then you're told to change the files yourself).
I don't like installers in general but I feel that a configurator is
rather a good thing except being yet another feature wish.
It's there in jira already...
paul
PS: I believe I and Morten are not the only one to mistrust Jetty.
It may be wrong, I agree... but that must be common. Hence the
standalone version does not come as an option.
<OT>Mistrust jetty that's the first time I hear this. It's so much
better than Tomcat! :)</OT>
Morten can choose whatever methods he wants to use but one thing he
should NOT do is follow the standalone instructions if he's doing the
"manual" install. That's all I was saying in my previous email...
Thanks
-Vincent
3:28 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] getting xwiki and bringing it to production state (was: (no subject) )
Le 14 janv. 08 à 15:18, Vincent Massol a écrit :
Looks better.
Erm... with which user since I have never logged-in yet ?
Except superadmin has all rights which others should be restricted to
have fairly quickly.
I think installation instructions should go as far as a reasonably
safe wiki, e.g. where programming rights are limited to a handful of
controlled users and public editing is clearly warned as a possibility.
Now, you're starting to make me shiver that I might have no secured
enough of my xwiki installations... and indeed I saw a friend editing
velocity to my (bad) surprise.
To me this is related... under the same broad topic of "getting xwiki
and bringing it to production state". I changed the subject ;-).
paul
But the
database gets filled right way, doesn't it ?
Ok I wasn't precise enough. Since XWiki doesn't see security
classes (like XWiki.XWikiRights) it sets itself into no security
mode. it's only when you import those classes that suddenly it
starts checking rights. So we loose
admin rights fairly easily (eg. changing browsers).
What? I don't understand
what you're saying. What does this have to
do with browsers? Only thing you may loose by changing browsers are
the cookies but that's just a convenience you can always log in
again with your user... I did not
really experience what you describe, maybe I changed
browsers halfway, in doubt that Safari or OmniWeb was imperfectly
supported.
In all cases, how long should this admin right last ? The method
seems slightly unsafe to my taste. I really prefer to take a stab
at the config.
That won't change anything at all. All you'd do by enabling the
superadmin user is introduce a security hole. I think you don't understand what I'm saying
:)
I think I do.
Most other
"easy to install platforms" nowadays have a kind of
wizard for the first-time connection which even includes the
config of the database connection. This is at least the case of
Moodle and Drupal. I remember a friend forwarding me:
http://www.lullabot.com/files/Drupal5Installing.mp4
I think it the eXo platform and Jahia are other examples with a
configurator.
Are you talking about something else now? I thought the topic of
this email was about getting an "empty database" from Morten...
3:38 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] getting xwiki and bringing it to production state (was: (no subject) )
On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Except superadmin has all rights which others should be restricted
to have fairly quickly.
Actually I'm not sure if there's something you can do with superadmin
that you cannot do with a user that has admin rights. Anyway we're
talking about installing xwiki here and all I'm telling you is that
you don't need that extra step of enabling superadmin for that and in
addition you won't forget and disabling it later on if you don't
intend to use it.
[snip]
-Vincent
Le 14 janv. 08 à 15:18, Vincent Massol a écrit :
Looks better.
Erm... with which user since I have never logged-in yet ?
If you have an empty DB you don't need a user to log in to get admin
rights as explained above.
But the
database gets filled right way, doesn't it ?
Ok I wasn't precise enough. Since XWiki doesn't see security
classes (like XWiki.XWikiRights) it sets itself into no security
mode. it's only when you import those classes that suddenly it
starts checking rights. So we
loose admin rights fairly easily (eg. changing browsers).
What? I don't
understand what you're saying. What does this have to
do with browsers? Only thing you may loose by changing browsers are
the cookies but that's just a convenience you can always log in
again with your user... I did
not really experience what you describe, maybe I changed
browsers halfway, in doubt that Safari or OmniWeb was imperfectly
supported.
In all cases, how long should this admin right last ? The method
seems slightly unsafe to my taste. I really prefer to take a stab
at the config.
That won't change anything at all. All you'd do by enabling the
superadmin user is introduce a security hole.
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