[xwiki-devs] Why are extensions of same version removed when installing a new extension?
19 Nov
2016
19 Nov
'16
1:26 p.m.
Hi devs,
When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is saying that it’ll
removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same extension in the same
version.
See screenshot:
https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
Thanks
-Vincent
19 Nov
19 Nov
1:27 p.m.
Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not reinstalled…
Why is that? Looks very wrong.
FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is saying that
it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same extension in the
same version.
See screenshot:
https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
Thanks
-Vincent
20 Nov
20 Nov
5:26 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Why are extensions of same version removed when installing a new extension?
Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
As to why are some extensions removed but not installed, that's simple.
Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
Tree Macro. But there's no indication left that those dependants are to
be installed back.
On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Actually there are even extensions listed that will be
removed and not reinstalled…
Why is that? Looks very wrong.
FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
Thanks
-Vincent
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is saying that
it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same extension in the
same version.
>
> See screenshot:
> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>
> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
11:47 a.m.
Hi Sergiu,
On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
As to why are some extensions removed but not
installed, that's simple.
Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
Tree Macro.
Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed?
But there's no indication left that those
dependants are to
be installed back.
Yep that’s the strange part.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Actually there are even extensions listed that
will be removed and not reinstalled…
Why is that? Looks very wrong.
FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
Thanks
-Vincent
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is saying that
it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same extension in the
same version.
>
> See screenshot:
> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>
> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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7:11 p.m.
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On 11/20/2016 05:47 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
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Hi Sergiu,
It's removed as a wiki extension, and installed as a farm extension,
probably to avoid conflicts.
On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
As to why are some extensions removed but not
installed, that's simple.
Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
Tree Macro.
Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed? But
there's no indication left that those dependants are to
be installed back.
Yep that’s the strange part.
Thanks
-Vincent
> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>
>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>
>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is
saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>
>>> See screenshot:
>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>
>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>
9:25 p.m.
On 20 Nov 2016, at 19:11, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2016 05:47 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Indeed, good catch. I guess we could make this more visible in the EM UI.
Hi Sergiu,
It's removed as a wiki extension, and installed as a farm extension,
probably to avoid conflicts. On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
As to why are some extensions removed but not
installed, that's simple.
Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
Tree Macro.
Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed? But there's no indication left that those
dependants are to
>> be installed back.
>
> Yep that’s the strange part.
This problem remains and it could also be some missing info in the UI.
Now I hope that the fact that all deps are re-installed in the root namespace isn’t going
to cause problems anywhere. It’s not very nice that when this extension is installed it’s
causing such a big change.
Thanks
-Vincent
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>>
>>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>>
>>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is
saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>>
>>>> See screenshot:
>>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>>
>>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
21 Nov
21 Nov
9:24 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Why are extensions of same version removed when installing a new extension?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Are you really sure it's right to install License Manager APPLICATION
at root level ? Sounds like a XAR extension to me, if that's expected
then I would say there is something wrong in the design.
On 20 Nov 2016, at 19:11, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2016 05:47 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Indeed, good catch. I guess we could make this more visible in the EM UI.
Hi Sergiu,
It's removed as a wiki extension, and installed as a farm extension,
probably to avoid conflicts. On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
As to why are some extensions removed but not
installed, that's simple.
Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
Tree Macro.
Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed? But there's no indication left that those
dependants are to
>> be installed back.
>
> Yep that’s the strange part.
This problem remains and it could also be some missing info in the UI.
Now I hope that the fact that all deps are re-installed in the root namespace isn’t going
to cause problems anywhere. It’s not very nice that when this extension is installed it’s
causing such a big change.
Thanks
-Vincent
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> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>>
>>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>>
>>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is
saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>>
>>>> See screenshot:
>>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>>
>>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
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On 21 Nov 2016, at 09:24, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Are you really sure it's right to install License Manager APPLICATION
at root level ? Sounds like a XAR extension to me, if that's expected
then I would say there is something wrong in the design.
Sure and I’ve already changed that (wasn’t done by me initially) but the 2 open questions
of this thread remain.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 20 Nov 2016, at 19:11, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2016 05:47 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Indeed, good catch. I guess we could make this more visible in the EM UI.
Hi Sergiu,
> On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
>
> Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
> As to why are some extensions removed but not installed, that's simple.
> Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
> Tree Macro.
Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed?
It's removed as a wiki extension, and installed as a farm extension,
probably to avoid conflicts. But there's no indication left that those
dependants are to
>> be installed back.
>
> Yep that’s the strange part.
This problem remains and it could also be some missing info in the UI.
Now I hope that the fact that all deps are re-installed in the root namespace isn’t going
to cause problems anywhere. It’s not very nice that when this extension is installed it’s
causing such a big change. Thanks
-Vincent
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> -Vincent
>
>> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>>
>>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>>
>>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is
saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>>
>>>> See screenshot:
>>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>>
>>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Yes dependencies of a root extension has to be root too of it would
not make any sense.
Extensions with the same id/features are not allowed to be available
at the same time in the same scope (sure way to have all sort of weird
issues) so yes when an extension is installed at root level then all
extensions matching its id/features are removed from other namespaces.
On 21 Nov 2016, at 09:24, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Are you really sure it's right to install License Manager APPLICATION
at root level ? Sounds like a XAR extension to me, if that's expected
then I would say there is something wrong in the design.
Sure and I’ve already changed that (wasn’t done by me initially) but the 2 open questions
of this thread remain. On 20 Nov 2016, at 19:11, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2016 05:47 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> Hi Sergiu,
>
>> On 20 Nov 2016, at 05:26, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are you perhaps installing as a farm extension?
>
> Yes, I am. There’s a namespace constraint of {root} in the pom for some modules I’m
installing.
>
>> As to why are some extensions removed but not installed, that's simple.
>> Removing Tree Macro also removes all its dependants, like the Document
>> Tree Macro.
>
> Yes but why is the Tree Macro removed?
It's removed as a wiki extension, and installed as a farm extension,
probably to avoid conflicts.
Indeed, good catch. I guess we could make this more visible in the EM UI.
But there's no indication left that those
dependants are to
>> be installed back.
>
> Yep that’s the strange part.
This problem remains and it could also be some missing info in the UI.
Now I hope that the fact that all deps are re-installed in the root namespace isn’t going
to cause problems anywhere. It’s not very nice that when this extension is installed it’s
causing such a big change.
Thanks
-Vincent
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> -Vincent
>
>> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>>
>>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>>
>>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM is
saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>>
>>>> See screenshot:
>>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>>
>>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
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On 21 Nov 2016, at 09:30, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
[snip]
> But
there's no indication left that those dependants are to
>>> be installed back.
>>
>> Yep that’s the strange part.
This problem remains and it could also be some missing info in the UI.
Now I hope that the fact that all deps are re-installed in the root namespace isn’t going
to cause problems anywhere. It’s not very nice that when this extension is installed it’s
causing such a big change.
Are you really sure it's right to install License Manager APPLICATION
at root level ? Sounds like a XAR extension to me, if that's expected
then I would say there is something wrong in the design. Thanks
-Vincent
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>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> On 11/19/2016 07:27 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>> Actually there are even extensions listed that will be removed and not
reinstalled…
>>>>
>>>> Why is that? Looks very wrong.
>>>>
>>>> FTR I’m on XWiki 8.4.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>> On 19 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> When trying to install a new extension I was surprised to see that EM
is saying that it’ll removed existing installed extensions to replace them with the same
extension in the same version.
>>>>>
>>>>> See screenshot:
>>>>> https://www.evernote.com/l/AHfLVOUhq8ZIrpItBgPWw1KOQ7E2uvCukTU
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea? Is that a known bug/limitation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
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