On 13 Oct 2015 at 17:49:00, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote: As I said I’m not against notification icons. I even think we need them (I can think of Warning icons of admins when the rendering of a page contains errors for example too). But I definitely don’t agree about crowding the UI to add specific watch/unwatch action buttons. They should go in the menu actions. Thanks -Vincent

Hi Guillaume, On 28 Oct 2015 at 14:57:27, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote: Thanks. I still don’t like that it takes more vertical space and that it doesn’t solve the general problem of notifications. Why not implement the notification area in the top menu bar as discussed in a few places? Thanks -Vincent

Hi Guillaume, On 28 Oct 2015 at 16:18:49, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote: Yes you’re right, I’ve not used the right terminology. I was referring to a zone in the top menu bar on the right (but left of the existing search icon) where apps could contribute new icons, similar to what exists on OSX.  For example check the top right of http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hbqlh3z3feijpg/ku-xlarge.jpg (they call it menu bar icons). I like this better because: 1) It’s an UIX, it’s apps that can contribute to it 2) We have removed menu entries in the top bar and thus we have lots of available horizontal space 3) We define a standard for all apps The idea would for apps to contribute notifications and states there. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent

Hi, Sounds nice. A notifications top menu button that, when expanded, would show the 2 options (to watch the current page or the current page and its children) and, below those options, we would add (in the coming future) actual notifications about modified documents that the user is watching. Something like http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thefacebookinsider.com/wp-co… but with the two options included. Thanks, Eduard On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote:

Eduard, what you propose is basically the proposal 3: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… What I propose, following the idea of Vincent, is the following: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H4.W… An icon on the top bar when the page is watched (like the badge proposed previously), but the actions are still in the more actions menu. Notifications can still be display on the top bar, under a menu with a "bell" icon, such as: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846… WDYT? Thanks, 2015-10-29 14:37 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: -- Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project

Edy's proposal sounds ok to me. Thanks, Marius On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Eduard Moraru &lt;enygma2002(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: Yes, we'll need something like this.

I've posted a screenshot of a prototype inspired by the Caty's mockups: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… If everyone agrees I continue in this direction. Thanks, 2015-11-02 15:31 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: -- Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com We would be back to 2 clicks to find the watch state, which is too much IMO. Thanks, Marius > > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > I've posted a screenshot of a prototype inspired by the Caty's mockups: > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > If everyone agrees I continue in this direction. > > > > Thanks, > > > > 2015-11-02 15:31 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com > >: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've added an iteration that adds switches to the Page/Hierarchy/Wiki > > > watchlist/notifications activators and that display also the top notifs > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H6.W… > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > I've attached a mock-up of your idea there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H5.W… > > > > > > > > > > Some thoughts: > > > > > > > > > > * the notification menu needs to be always displayed to access the > > > > > watchlist actions, even if no real notification have been sent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we would need a kind of "new" icon close to the bell (or the > count > > > of > > > > > unread notifications) when there is new notifications (like in > > > facebook: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/117fb905-4cd4-4a63-a53d-fbfa5d975ed1… > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we'll need something like this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the actions are relevant to the current page, but are displayed > in > > a > > > > more > > > > > global menu. But we could also argue that they concern the > > notification > > > > > area so it's ok and quite intuitive. > > > > > > > > > > * it still need an extra-click to see the state of the page (but as > > > > before > > > > > in the first Flamingo's version and Colibri) but it does not cost a > > lot > > > > > (nothing compared to a modal box to open). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If everyone agrees, I can implement this way. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > 2015-11-02 9:50 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > Edy's proposal sounds ok to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Eduard Moraru < > > enygma2002(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don`t like having multiple icons for relatively the same > > purpose > > > > nor > > > > > > > abusing the extra space we have in the top menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about joining the 2 icons (eye and bell) and using only > the > > > bell > > > > > > item > > > > > > > for generic "notifications"? > > > > > > > Reiterating: inside the dropdown of the bell icon (the dropdown > > > shown > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846… > > > > > > > ), just above the actual notifications stream, we would also > have > > > > the 2 > > > > > > > watchlist subscription options (i.e. the content of the > dropdown > > > > shown > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > which would also show their states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This way we would also remove the "watch" actions from the more > > > > actions > > > > > > > section and we would group notifications and > > > page-watch-subscriptions > > > > > in > > > > > > > the same spot. IMO, it is not critical to always display the > > > > > information > > > > > > > that you are watching the current page and, just like we did in > > all > > > > the > > > > > > > other previous skins, it is enough if you can obtain that > > > information > > > > > in > > > > > > > one click (i.e. clicking on the bell icon and seeing the state > of > > > the > > > > > > watch > > > > > > > buttons). In our previous skins (colibri, Flamingo v1, etc.) we > > had > > > > > this > > > > > > > information upon hovering the page, space or wiki, in the > > dropdown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I guess that at first, it will look a bit similar to > > > > proposal > > > > > 3 > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > ), but with a bell icon and not a dedicated eye (watchlist) > icon > > > > > instead > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Eduard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" > > Delhumeau > > > < > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eduard, what you propose is basically the proposal 3: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I propose, following the idea of Vincent, is the > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H4.W… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An icon on the top bar when the page is watched (like the > badge > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > previously), but the actions are still in the more actions > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Notifications can still be display on the top bar, under a > menu > > > > with > > > > > a > > > > > > > > "bell" icon, such as: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-29 14:37 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Eduard Moraru < > > > > > enygma2002(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds nice. A notifications top menu button that, when > > > > expanded, > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > show the 2 options (to watch the current page or the > > current > > > > page > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > children) and, below those options, we would add (in the > > > coming > > > > > > > future) > > > > > > > > > > actual notifications about modified documents that the > user > > > is > > > > > > > > watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but how do you show, using only one icon, that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the current document is in your watch list (state for the > > > > current > > > > > > > > > document) > > > > > > > > > * there are documents in your watch list that have been > > > modified > > > > > > > > > (notifications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that the top bar is the right place to signal > > > > > notifications, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's the best place to show some state related > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > document. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thefacebookinsider.com/wp-co… > > > > > > > > > > but with the two options included. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Eduard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" > > > > > > Delhumeau < > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it. What about the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-29 10:52 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net < > > > > > > vincent(a)massol.net > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 16:18:49, Guillaume Louis-Marie > > > > Delhumeau ( > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 14:57:27, Guillaume Louis-Marie > > > > > > Delhumeau ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com > )) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just added a new iteration: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H1.b… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still don’t like that it takes more vertical > > space > > > > and > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn’t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve the general problem of notifications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a little variant with the "badge" > displayed > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > line > > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > the last modification date. It does not take more > > > > vertical > > > > > > > space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not implement the notification area in the > top > > > menu > > > > > bar > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > discussed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a few places? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand how the state of the current > page > > > (is > > > > it > > > > > > > > watched > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > current user or not?) is related to "notification". > > To > > > > me, > > > > > > > > > > > notifications > > > > > > > > > > > > > are relevant to inform the user that a new message > > has > > > > been > > > > > > > > > received > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > that a watched page has been modified, but not to > > > inform > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the current page. In other words, notifications are > > > about > > > > > > > > "events", > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > about "state”. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you’re right, I’ve not used the right > terminology. > > I > > > > was > > > > > > > > > referring > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > a zone in the top menu bar on the right (but left of > > the > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > icon) where apps could contribute new icons, similar > to > > > > what > > > > > > > exists > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > OSX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example check the top right of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hbqlh3z3feijpg/ku-xlarge.jpg > > > > > > > > (they > > > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > > > it menu bar icons). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like this better because: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) It’s an UIX, it’s apps that can contribute to it > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) We have removed menu entries in the top bar and > thus > > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > lots > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > available horizontal space > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) We define a standard for all apps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea would for apps to contribute notifications > and > > > > > states > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-13 19:55 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru > Florea > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re "watch parent and siblings?" it should be > > > "Watch > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children" IMO. Terminal pages should have > only > > > > "Watch > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > page". > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to watch the siblings also you can > > navigate > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > parent > > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that hard). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think "Watch this wiki" should be > > > displayed > > > > > on > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > page. > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have it either on the Wiki Index (as an > > > additional > > > > > > entry > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Actions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > column) or on the Drawer where we list the > > wikis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So basically for a nested (non-terminal) page > > the > > > > > user > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > perform > > > > > > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions: "Watch this page" and "Watch this > page > > > and > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > children". > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state can be one of "No watch", "Explicit > > watch", > > > > > > > "Implicit > > > > > > > > > > > watch" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (either > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the wiki or one of its ancestor are being > > watched > > > > > "with > > > > > > > > > > > children"). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we don't care about the difference between > > > explicit > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > implicit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watch, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which case there will be only two states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Guillaume > > > > > > "Louis-Marie" > > > > > > > > > > > Delhumeau > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other thread about the content menus > > > > > > > re-organization > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deviated to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talk about the watchlist, so I prefer to > > > continue > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have made some mock-ups that you can see > > > there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > > > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > > > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devs mailing list > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com Managing the notifications is one thing. Checking the watch *state* for the current page ("am I watching this page?") is another thing, which should not be hidden behind 2 clicks, but that's just my opinion. Maybe the users don't care that much where the current page is being watched or not. Thanks, Marius > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > valicac(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > Since there were no hints about the functionality, I've iterated > > providing > > > more details about the configuration and hidding into a configuration, > > > focusing on the notifications: > > > * > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > * > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > * Interaction: > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > We would be back to 2 clicks to find the watch state, which is too much > > IMO. > > > > Thanks, > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > I've posted a screenshot of a prototype inspired by the Caty's > mockups: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > > If everyone agrees I continue in this direction. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > 2015-11-02 15:31 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > valicac(a)gmail.com > > > >: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've added an iteration that adds switches to the > Page/Hierarchy/Wiki > > > > > watchlist/notifications activators and that display also the top > > notifs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H6.W… > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Caty > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" > Delhumeau > > < > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've attached a mock-up of your idea there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H5.W… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some thoughts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the notification menu needs to be always displayed to access > > the > > > > > > > watchlist actions, even if no real notification have been sent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we would need a kind of "new" icon close to the bell (or the > > > count > > > > > of > > > > > > > unread notifications) when there is new notifications (like in > > > > > facebook: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/117fb905-4cd4-4a63-a53d-fbfa5d975ed1… > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we'll need something like this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the actions are relevant to the current page, but are > displayed > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > more > > > > > > > global menu. But we could also argue that they concern the > > > > notification > > > > > > > area so it's ok and quite intuitive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * it still need an extra-click to see the state of the page > (but > > as > > > > > > before > > > > > > > in the first Flamingo's version and Colibri) but it does not > > cost a > > > > lot > > > > > > > (nothing compared to a modal box to open). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If everyone agrees, I can implement this way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-11-02 9:50 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edy's proposal sounds ok to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Eduard Moraru < > > > > enygma2002(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don`t like having multiple icons for relatively the same > > > > purpose > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > abusing the extra space we have in the top menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about joining the 2 icons (eye and bell) and using > only > > > the > > > > > bell > > > > > > > > item > > > > > > > > > for generic "notifications"? > > > > > > > > > Reiterating: inside the dropdown of the bell icon (the > > dropdown > > > > > shown > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846… > > > > > > > > > ), just above the actual notifications stream, we would > also > > > have > > > > > > the 2 > > > > > > > > > watchlist subscription options (i.e. the content of the > > > dropdown > > > > > > shown > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > which would also show their states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This way we would also remove the "watch" actions from the > > more > > > > > > actions > > > > > > > > > section and we would group notifications and > > > > > page-watch-subscriptions > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the same spot. IMO, it is not critical to always display > the > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > that you are watching the current page and, just like we > did > > in > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > other previous skins, it is enough if you can obtain that > > > > > information > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > one click (i.e. clicking on the bell icon and seeing the > > state > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > watch > > > > > > > > > buttons). In our previous skins (colibri, Flamingo v1, > etc.) > > we > > > > had > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > information upon hovering the page, space or wiki, in the > > > > dropdown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I guess that at first, it will look a bit similar > to > > > > > > proposal > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > > > ), but with a bell icon and not a dedicated eye (watchlist) > > > icon > > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Eduard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" > > > > Delhumeau > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eduard, what you propose is basically the proposal 3: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I propose, following the idea of Vincent, is the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H4.W… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An icon on the top bar when the page is watched (like the > > > badge > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > > > previously), but the actions are still in the more > actions > > > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Notifications can still be display on the top bar, under > a > > > menu > > > > > > with > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > "bell" icon, such as: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-29 14:37 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Eduard Moraru < > > > > > > > enygma2002(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds nice. A notifications top menu button that, > when > > > > > > expanded, > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > show the 2 options (to watch the current page or the > > > > current > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > children) and, below those options, we would add (in > > the > > > > > coming > > > > > > > > > future) > > > > > > > > > > > > actual notifications about modified documents that > the > > > user > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but how do you show, using only one icon, that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the current document is in your watch list (state for > > the > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > document) > > > > > > > > > > > * there are documents in your watch list that have been > > > > > modified > > > > > > > > > > > (notifications) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that the top bar is the right place to signal > > > > > > > notifications, > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's the best place to show some state > > related > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > document. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thefacebookinsider.com/wp-co… > > > > > > > > > > > > but with the two options included. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Eduard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume > > "Louis-Marie" > > > > > > > > Delhumeau < > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like it. What about the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-29 10:52 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net < > > > > > > > > vincent(a)massol.net > > > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 16:18:49, Guillaume Louis-Marie > > > > > > Delhumeau ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com > )) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 14:57:27, Guillaume > > Louis-Marie > > > > > > > > Delhumeau ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com(mailto: > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com > > > )) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just added a new iteration: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H1.b… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still don’t like that it takes more > vertical > > > > space > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn’t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve the general problem of notifications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a little variant with the "badge" > > > displayed > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > line > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the last modification date. It does not take > more > > > > > > vertical > > > > > > > > > space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not implement the notification area in > the > > > top > > > > > menu > > > > > > > bar > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a few places? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand how the state of the current > > > page > > > > > (is > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > watched > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current user or not?) is related to > > "notification". > > > > To > > > > > > me, > > > > > > > > > > > > > notifications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are relevant to inform the user that a new > > message > > > > has > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > received > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that a watched page has been modified, but not > to > > > > > inform > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the current page. In other words, notifications > > are > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > "events", > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about "state”. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you’re right, I’ve not used the right > > > terminology. > > > > I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > referring > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a zone in the top menu bar on the right (but left > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > > > icon) where apps could contribute new icons, > > similar > > > to > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > exists > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example check the top right of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hbqlh3z3feijpg/ku-xlarge.jpg > > > > > > > > > > (they > > > > > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it menu bar icons). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like this better because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) It’s an UIX, it’s apps that can contribute to > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) We have removed menu entries in the top bar > and > > > thus > > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > lots > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available horizontal space > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) We define a standard for all apps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea would for apps to contribute > notifications > > > and > > > > > > > states > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-10-13 19:55 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru > > > Florea > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re "watch parent and siblings?" it should > > be > > > > > "Watch > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children" IMO. Terminal pages should have > > > only > > > > > > "Watch > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > page". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to watch the siblings also you can > > > > navigate > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > parent > > > > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that hard). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think "Watch this wiki" should be > > > > > displayed > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have it either on the Wiki Index (as an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > entry > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > column) or on the Drawer where we list > the > > > > wikis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So basically for a nested (non-terminal) > > page > > > > the > > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > perform > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions: "Watch this page" and "Watch > this > > > page > > > > > and > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > children". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state can be one of "No watch", "Explicit > > > > watch", > > > > > > > > > "Implicit > > > > > > > > > > > > > watch" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (either > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the wiki or one of its ancestor are being > > > > watched > > > > > > > "with > > > > > > > > > > > > > children"). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we don't care about the difference > between > > > > > explicit > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > implicit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > watch, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which case there will be only two states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:39 PM, > Guillaume > > > > > > > > "Louis-Marie" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Delhumeau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other thread about the content > menus > > > > > > > > > re-organization > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deviated to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talk about the watchlist, so I prefer > to > > > > > continue > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have made some mock-ups that you can > > see > > > > > there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) > > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devs mailing list > > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > devs(a)xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >

I'm not trilled about the help modal. We don't use this kind of interaction anywhere else in the wiki. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: